It’d require Elite agreeing to release the spec. (Just saying, it COULD be, maybe… It’s as simple as that. If there is no Ant+ profile that supports steering this device is not Ant+. Le calotte sono disponibili con i seguenti abbinamenti di misure: ZS44/EC44, ZS44/EC49 e ZS44/ZS56. Mountain bike online magazine. You can see how I’ve (pretty stupidly) placed myself to the left of the group, out of the draft. But obviously the Computrainer is plugged into the computer, no wireless capability. So below, you can see me off to the right. Get fluid…do not mess around with magnetic. I don’t have a Sterzo and Keith doesn’t have an iOS device, so we only got the Android side figured out. In fact, the proper term for this is more ‘veering’. Characteristics As of last night they turned off steering for non-steering events. The reviews generally take a lot of hours to put together, so it’s a fair bit of work (and labor of love). In any case, I’m super interested to see these get in the hands of people, and see what a large-scale race in Zwift looks like with everyone having steering. A feature you’ll greatly appreciate later in racing so that you’re not constantly dragging against the wall. Hardware-wise they’re identical, save the electronics inside to measure/transmit the direction. It doesn’t have to be all or nothing. Well, great review, thanks…so , there is no option steering with the smartphone anymore? I think the Elite Sterzo Smart is a step toward more “IRL-style” e-racing. » Elite Sterzo Steering/Riser Block Accessory In-Depth Review, » Hands-On: Elite’s New $799 Suito Smart Trainer (with cassette), » Elite Direto X Smart Trainer In-Depth Review, » Elite Zumo Smart Trainer In-Depth Review, » Elite Suito Smart Trainer In-Depth Review, which Zwift had teased in the survey earlier this week, Elago R1 Apple TV Remote Silicone Case with Strap, Indoor Cycle Trainer Desk (RAD/Lifeline/Vinsetto/Conquer/etc...), Wahoo KICKR V5 (2020) Smart Trainer In-Depth Review, click here to Subscribe without commenting. Probably wiser to test it out such a concept on something like a non-Smart Sterzo first. I currently use Zwift companion to pair all my sensors to the Apple TV App. Looks like someone has built the service on Github. I segreti per avere una serie sterzo sempre efficiente e che dura nel tempo sono essenzialmente due: innanzitutto bisogna comprare una buona serie sterzo (meglio se con cuscinetti industriali sigillati), poi farci la dovuta manutenzione, utilizzando un buon grasso che non faccia entrare l’acqua. not a fan of things that limit consumer choice, or limit consumer adoption. I have built an extensive list of my most frequently asked questions. If you're shopping for the Elite Sterzo Smart or any other accessory items, please consider using the affiliate links below! But two, because I’ve talked to a few companies and they’re hopes are high as well. Cheaper is better apparently. You may be one of the visionary few who thought it was great idea, but most did not. Direct drive but if you have less than 7-8 speeds, might not be possible. Meaning, if you steered yourself to the right edge of the road, and then stopped, your rider will continue along the right edge. Interested to see if it will overhang my home build rocker plate. Having raced a couple of times now with the Sterzo it isn’t a natural way to ride as you tend to jerk the steering from left to right. I do not like this at ALL for racing. Hi thanks as always for the great review/insight. Is the BT or ANT+ profile for steering a standard documented somewhere? In other words, for all the people that received units in the last few days, nobody has (yet) said – I keep turning left while turning right. that goes on the seat tube. It could be ordered, thousands were ordered in fact. This is better than good. Also, note that while there is a centering option with the Zwift companion app today when paired with the Sterzo Smart, that’s not enabled yet. That may change in the future (the ever pending GUI update…?) Zwift says they’ll expand the steering functionality on that in the next few months to support the Elite Sterzo Smart. The way i see it, only zwift and RGT benefits from steering, all the others have no use for it. Tienda física y online especializada en bicicletas de mountainbike y carretera, accesorios, componentes y equipaciones. A much experience can be had with a wheel on trainer such as Wahoo Kickr Snap or Saris M1/M2. I wonder how well this will work for MTB courses. Check out There’s no desired “can’t have it hype” there by them or Elite. La procedura di precarico è estremamente importante perché: Per questo motivo la fase finale di “regolazione della serie sterzo” sarà molto molto importante. Surprisingly natural in fact. Its a matter of time. Due to different geometries of bikes, the distance between points 1 and 2 will vary to some degree (pun intended), but I imagine that in real world situations they’re probably reasonably close, especially given the angular limit of this at 36deg — I haven’t run numbers, but I imagine one reason for this limit is to limit the mechanical issues you allude to. We have everything you need: MTB, Components, Full Bikes, Carbon, Tools, Ciclocross, CANNONDALE and LEFTY® It’s the same on an IRL bike, but in that case the back end turns out slightly to counter that, but with the rear wheel locked into a trainer that obviously can’t happen. I’m assuming you’ll have to drop the HRM? Il carro posteriore corto con perno passante Boost, il tubo di sterzo conico e la geometria Agile Ride interagiscono per creare una guida reattiva e vivace. In the blob not a big deal, except when the group goes to another part of the road and you’re not paying attention. If you stop steering, your rider will maintain the same relative position on the road. And I also agree it’s something that Elite should incorporate into a running change on manufacturing to add a small barrier there. Hopefully, if it has just gone nuts and if they have run out of stock, they will set up some sort of pre-order system? It is super solid and has ANT +. Cheapest: It will effectively become pay to win! This is likely for two reasons: A) The Sterzo Smart re-centers when you let go of your handlebars: This means that you won’t continuously steer. That is surprising, given the price. Decided to dive straight in and get one at the very appealing £80 price tag… but it got even better… as the price in the Zwift shop is actually £70 (£69.99) for us UK folk, and free shipping! I just need more time and more events to optimize how I use it and figure out if it’s something I like longer-term or not. Pioneer didn’t implement it, nor PowerTap, nor SRM, nor…nor…nor. Thus a positive number indicates you’ve turned to the right, and a negative number to the left. I understand ATV device limitation so I am trying the ZC app, but that doesn’t work either. I cover all the units to buy (and avoid) for the 2020-2021 indoor training season. Just ordered a Sterzo Smart. I am happy to explain why it is not a game changer and why it serves no purpose. I hate when “technology” companies kick out customers with hardware that is renderend useless in a couple of months, Can’t wait for the virtual crash function. Thus, let’s load up a race to suffer on. Il grasso nella serie sterzo però non svolge principalmente la funzione di lubrificante, ma per lo più di isolante. Now I’m totally confused about whether to buy a Climb, which I was hoping to do this weekend. *** Last year at Eurobike we saw Elite announce two then-unnamed steering accessories. It’s hard to blame Zwift at this point. Note: Branding varies by country, exact same desk. CONTACT US So I don’t see this steering as the thing that breaks a rider’s ability to ride outside either. The Apple TV remote sucks though. After all, no matter how much one may or may not like what Zwift/Elite have done – at least they’ve shipped something. Thanks. Lets make it clear what we’re looking at here. 2. I had thought with a phone pairing performed the same function only using the phones accelerometer to detect the steering? Want to do DIY steering plate and to lazy to have to go use BT and ANT sniffer to reverse engineer. I’d need to do some quick geometry to verify, but I’m pretty sure the race line will be the shortest distance, Which is what should get you the quickest time. Registrado: 26 ... solo me quedaría probar en mtb si se curvea mejor porque en carretera para girar un poco dentro del carril de sentido es bastante recortadito las funciones. But at almost every turn, virtually every non-Garmin company hasn’t bothered to ever implement any of the things I’ve fought for. Of course with all this the front wheel is still free to rotate (about the hub), so I’m sure it’ll make up some of the needed compliance by rotating there as well as the tire cradle slot being designed to allow a tire to lean in it. Per sentire il gioco della serie sterzo si può pinzare con il freno anteriore e muovere il manubrio avanti ed indietro, ma attenzione al gioco delle pastiglie, che potrebbe trarvi in inganno. To be fair Mark, I am normally the one that either misses the boat or tends to be cautious around brand new launch tech and wait to see before taking the leap. Non ci resta che fare un giro di prova e verificare che sia tutto a posto. It’s great to have more features added to create a better race feeling. I think the ‘easy button’ solution is simply put a rag down below it if you’re a heavy sweater and if your trainer mat is prone to creating pools in that spot. Is that only when it detects a Sterzo or should it be before? Could this steering function be used to choose a route when i’m riding free (like the arrow keys on the keyboard now) ? there will be no disadvantage of having the first 2 applications over having the 3rd. On PC desktop Zwift app is not possible Quick question on the physics modeling going on. now that you have used both how do both smart and non smart versions compare? I hate you Zwift! I’m not sure if other trainers are like this, but my trainer on a concrete floor will actually rotate side to side a little when I rotate my front wheel, so that also will likely make up some compliance needed. di Daniel Naftali Poter variare l’angolo di sterzo è un buon sistema per personalizzare la bici: non sempre infatti le quote geometriche di un telaio rispecchiano le proprie esigenze. You’re going to run into dynamic camber with this (the more you turn the wheel, the more it effectively leans) which will cause needed compliance in the system. I predict that Zwift supports a single vendor or themselves in a similarly exclusive arrangement with a financial considerations. I’ve seen a couple folks make that mistake – so just a general reminder! Maybe if we snoop around in the Zwift folders there will be an xml file with some clues? Oh – and after you finish riding with steering, you’ll get a short survey to fill out. Alternatively, for everything else on the planet, simply buy your goods from Amazon via the link below and I get a tiny bit back as an Amazon Associate. Many wheel-on trainer owners already use front wheel blocks, and this is the same basic height as that. Do you think there would be any fit/balance issues using it with a Kickr Core with a 29er mountain bike (which I don’t usually need a wheel block for)? It can still be Ant. Yes that’s why i buy elite, they make good products, with a competitive price and don’t outsource in country with exploited workers. Many pros don’t know them (the stronger you are the less likely you learned them naturally).. None were takers. :-/. [Workshop] Come sostituire la serie sterzo. Cyclists, and Zwifters in particular, are like golden retrievers in a squirrel sanctuary. So I’m one of those Zwifters using my trusty 20 year old Computrainer which works great for my needs. That’s exactly what I was thinking. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, but your purchases help support this website a lot. I’m planning to buy Wahoo Kickr Climb, and found Sterzo interesting. It was indeed an awesome surprise. Most of the time. You can find the code here: link to github.com. No edit button so I need to add; I’ve risen repack ridge (and love it!) First, I run on Windows 10 PC which is only used for Zwift (Intel NUC with build in Bluetooth) I suppose that’s something that can be addressed down the road if need be. Lavoriamo con la bici a terra e la ruota montata. Looking for the equipment I use day to day? Get all your awesome high quality DCR kit and gear here! E’ costituita da due cuscinetti a contatto angolare (ACB, Angular Contact Bearing) ed è soggetta a fortissimi carichi perché ha il compito di collegare e trasmettere tutte le sollecitazione dalla forcella al telaio. Need penalties for bad bike handling with steering: ride off road, into someone, overcook corner lots of possibilities that can be titrate pushed back in pack, loss of power, loss of speedy, …just like any other video racing game actually. Has anyone used the Sterzo Smart with RGT Cycling app? In all likelihood Zwift is taking a cut of the revenues of this single device — creating both the market/demand and taking home some $. But all this brings up a good question: Should racers with steering be mingling with non-steering? It’s easier to reverse engineer BLE anyway vs the GAAT documentation. Veloton will have 3 applications that will allow you to steer, 2 are completely free and the 3rd you have to purchase. Now Zwift needs to implement a visual draft widget so you can see how many watts you are saving and make it reflective of the height of the person who’s wheel I’m on! At any point you release the steering back to center, you will hold that position. One of the most popular trainer fans out there, rivaling the Wahoo Headwind fan in strength but at a fraction of the price. However, I’m concerned over the current lag in game. This is a super basic trainer mat, which is exactly what you'll see me use. Once that’s done, it works great. Queste due viti vanno strette in maniera alternata e preferibilmente con la dinamometrica. As I understand there’s only US based servers, giving Americans an advantage. Now is a good time to note that this is *different* than the base Elite Sterzo. Above, Ray says it will work via Zwift Companion app for pairing, so ATV use should be fine. I’m getting more and more attracted to trying zwift. It’ll be done with buttons. Someone not wanting to drill into their plate could try some strong double-stick tape or even some straps. As noted, this is more like veering, rather than straight steering. Kinda like riding a bike…. Guarda il mio tutorial! Perhaps you own a product I’ve designed already for other companies. Optional tire kinematics, and road surface friction coefficient add ins available soon. Prima di proseguire verifichiamo che, alzando la ruota davanti, lo sterzo scorra libero. Sorry but that’s nonsense. Can the Sterzo smart be use if you have a Tacx Neo or you need a Sterzo Bike trainer? When you have steering activated can you still power through ppl in front of you when you throw down an attack? CABLE won’t work because it’s not a standard protocol. It does support it, you just have to then give-up the HR strap, or then use the companion app instead with Zwift Apple TV. PREZZO MIGLIORE - Consegna veloce! This $8 case fixes that, it's a silicone strap that makes it easy to grab, but also has a strap to easily place on the edge of your handlebars. 7) Ingrassaggio: applichiamo abbondante grasso sulle sedi dei cuscinetti, sui cuscinetti stessi e sulla ralla di scorrimento inferiore. Simply wiggle your wheel a bit, which wakes up the Sterzo Smart and starts transmitting on Bluetooth Smart: As of today, Zwift has only implemented steering on Bluetooth Smart, but they (Zwift) say an ANT+ implementation is coming, likely later this year. Hi Ray. It will also work on the Kickr climb without the need to turn any handle bars or invest in any additional equipment. At least today. Yeah, I saw the pic as well – and no doubt it’s legit. Without turn or tyre grip limits and no crashing it seems the Zwift fastest route with steering is just the shortest route around a corner, not what is the fastest route in real life, ie the racing line…This hurts me… on tight chicanes it will produce horribly unrealistic situations…. You are probably correct about Halfords… it might be worth keeping and eye on them and Wiggle as they might have units on the way to them already and will be listing them as soon as the stock lands with them. Practically speaking, there’s also the ability to create draft packs with real team dynamics now. Not much luck in finding anything relevant in the Zwift folders, but it interesting that the Zwift exe has “Digital Steering” already baked into it with references to “left button pressed” and “right button pressed”, Service I’m not against it in principle, but it needs to be well considered before being added to races. But, it doesn’t sound like you’ve used one – so my guess is that’ll be a pretty tough thing for you to do. Murray, Also there is a new MTB course in France. I think it is a good idea to keep it more secure, if not fully locked into place. Unfortunately, big fish small fish senario prevails. Great timing on my Wahoo Kickr Climb! Below are the most popular. Andare oltre significa precaricare eccessivamente i cuscinetti. And finally, here’s a handy list of trainer accessories that most folks getting a smart trainer for the first time might not have already: There's no better bang for your buck in getting Zwift (or FulGaz/etc) on your big screen TV than Apple TV - it's the primary way I Zwift. If it’s the former I don’t see how buttons on an indoor bike will work. Great review as always. I’m from out of the country and will be visiting the US, what’s the best triathlon shop in city XYZ? Thanks for the review and bringing this to a more broad attention. I'll be testing the Elite Sterzo smart steering plate over the coming months and look forward to seeing how it holds up during fast-paced 3R and WTRL TTT … I could go on and on and on. I fought for endless years for ANT+ FE-C, so much so that by time it was released, with most trainer companies dragging their heals. You can also do rollers but no steering device as in the review. Not advised, check with a physician before attempting, use (make) at own risk, and any and all damages are your fault for following someone else’s dumb idea??? Will I have connectivity issues with Apple TV? jperez, 5 Oct 2020 #8. Next Best: Mark from DC! Now, as soon as you start pedaling forward you’ll see a small blue steering wheel icon in the upper portion of the ride status window indicating that steering is enabled. This is my plan for working with two Bluetooth connections. Hasta 34º de rotación en cada lado. 347B0031-7635-408B-8918-8FF3949CE592 Ciascuna coppia di calotte vanno selezionate anche in base alla lunghezza del tubo di sterzo della propria bici, con un modello specifico per i tubi di sterzo da 90 a 115mm e un altro modello per i tubi di sterzo da 115 a 140mm. This actually has a purpose (with dedicated hardware), and has real impacts on winners and losers in a Zwift race. . So perhaps we’ll see it expanded elsewhere. No one really knows what they want till they see it. Same goes for braking, which Zwift had teased in the survey earlier this week. Neither of the mats I used are (just cheap $20 mats), so I suspect it’ll vary by person. Smart bikes have plans to get steering integrated. And despite that, we’ve not seen a rash of people forgetting how to ride when they head back outside. You should check out my videos. As I started off this post, I’m surprised with how impactful the steering in racing within Zwift is. Sometimes I’m in one camp, sometimes the other. Enjoy, and thanks for stopping by! If you find something and are not sure…ASK before purchasing. Consiglio 1 volta ogni due mesi di controllare la serie sterzo della mtb. Also, you can’t crash someone else. I know you have tried Veloton but not sure if you have tried it with steering, forward collision and the ability to push riders laterally to gain position. Elite and TACX have their versions and are probably more available in Europe. Not perfect but should work. Perhaps the 2nd gen smart bikes will incorporate steering among other improvements. (The latest KICKR’s from 2018 all support broadcasting of power/cadence within the same BLE channel. Brugole (solitamente 4 e 5mm, talvolta anche 3 e 6, oppure la Torx T25). But, let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Compatible means they have a Speed vs resistance curve for the trainer and Fluid trainers are reasonably repeatable. Note the point where the this line hits the ground (should be center of the contact patch of the front tire on the ground). Yes, I’ve got this Problem too. Does the Sterzo work with a riser block under it? But right after the iPhone BT grabs the Sterzo, the LED flashes a solid blue signal, meaning that “a” connection has been established. Several of us in the rocker plate group have been using dumb turntables on our rockers for the MTB steering. After all, there’s equal parts Zwifters that want realism, matched by those that just want to mindlessly pedal. and there are times while climbing and turning that you need to really turn the wheel a lot. se la forza è troppo alta, le sfere sono troppo schiacciate. I just wish Zwift will implement the, already around for years, steering equipment from Tacx. Let me repeat: SMART trainer…biggest brands are Wahoo, Saris, TACX, Elite. . I’m not in Zwift beta, but now they have 130 CAD of my money. Tema en 'Material' iniciado por Narkete, 16 Sep 2020. Symptoms: Windows can see Elite Sterzo Smart and Zwift has an exclamation mark over the Bluetooth icon. So in efforts to combat the amount of emails I need to sort through on a daily basis, I’ve complied this “My Photography Gear” post for your curious minds! Elite makes most (all?) I travel a fair bit, both for work and for fun. The other is that Futureworks seems to be held hostage to begging and pleading to be let in. Is it stable if you stand up during paddling? Teniamo con una mano la forcella in modo che non cada e con l’altra rimuoviamo le parti della serie sterzo, guardando attentamente l’ordine e la direzione di inserimento dei vari pezzi. I can safely patiently ride up the center of a pack…Ray I know you know but short video…fyi for others). my weekly podcast - with GPLAMA, which is packed with both gadget and non-gadget goodness! All the bikes have extra buttons or secondary shifter options that can be re-appropriated it. Childish but surprisingly satisfying…. I live in an ANT+ ecosystem. Regolare la serie sterzo è un’operazione che bisogna saper fare perché si può averne bisogno anche quando si è in giro, per esempio in seguito ad una caduta in cui il manubrio si è stortato, oppure quando si vuole cambiare la posizione dell’attacco manubrio, mettendoci più o meno distanziali sotto. I don’t like the newer pairing method works with companion app, since the old version let us pair some devices to the Apple TV and others to the companion app. Maybe a doublesided glue-tape fixes the issue. Wheel on means it will work with just about any bike. it would work much like a heart rate strap. Please test it with a CABLE. So I’m going to be very peaved when I’ve paid money to zwift directly for hardware they won’t let me use. I believe it is a good way also for zwift to keep people within their software also. Quando il manubrio è dritto, serriamo le viti che lo bloccano al cannotto forcella. The Sterzo Smart allows you to steer in-game on Zwift. As I said up above – I’m generally (always?) -I assume that there was some company agreements between ZWIFT and TACX/WAHOO/STAGE, etc…. Oh, and free US shipping too! Granted, only a handful of people have hardware this evening. All pointless if Zwift implement their huge price options in your other article Ray. So there could be a market there for your product. Game changer!!! can this be used in workout mode? It takes another 1+ years for Favero to implement a portion of it. It is agnostic inasmuch as it connects directly via Bluetooth ie Wahoo kickr ‘16 etc.? Get a bike: Wahoo Kickr, Tacx, Watt bike (although some issues with Watt bike per Zwift forums) and Stages. The blob is the road, steering will be futile! Full In-Depth Review: https://dcra.in/EliteSterzoHere's your full review of the Elite Sterzo steering device for indoor trainers. You don’t get the advantage you would in a race, but if you like chasing the person in front of you and you’re doing power intervals it still enables catching up via the racing line and sneak undertakes in the corners. As for Veloton (the company you represent), I’m excited to see other options in the marketplace, but it’s been two years ago to the day (yesterday) that I published a piece about Veloton supposedly entering the marketplace. Zwift says they also want to know if people find any ‘gaps’ in the road where the bumpers don’t quite work. It’s just a new tool to make the experience more fun and interactive, which it seems to do.
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